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In Response to Obama, Israeli Settlers Reject the ‘Auschwitz Borders’ of 1967



By ROBERT MACKEY and ELIZABETH A. HARRIS



New York Times
May 19, 2011

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/19/israeli-settlers-reject-the-auschwitz-borders/?partner=rss&emc=rss



The editors of Arutz Sheva, an Israeli settler news organization...reported on Thursday that Mr. Obama had “dramatically changed U.S. foreign policy” by suggesting that Israel should eventually withdraw to what the settlers called the “Auschwitz borders” of the 1967 state.



That resonant phrase, which suggests that Israelis would face genocide should they withdraw fully from the land they have occupied since the end of the 1967 war, is based on a mangled version of a remark made by the Israeli diplomat Abba Eban in 1969. According to Haaretz, Mr. Eban told the German newsweekly Der Spiegel in that year: “We have openly said that the map will never again be the same as on June 4, 1967. For us, this is a matter of security and of principles. The June map is for us equivalent to insecurity and danger. I do not exaggerate when I say that it has for us something of a memory of Auschwitz.”



Israeli leaders have frequently used some version of this phrase to invoke the existential dread of the Holocaust when pressed to withdraw from the occupied territories as part of a peace agreement.

In 2002, Ariel Sharon told William Safire that a proposed Saudi peace plan was unacceptable because, “Israel cannot return to the ‘67 borders. Abba Eban long ago called them ‘Auschwitz borders’; Israel would not be able to exist.



A decade earlier, when another Israeli leader, Yitzhak Shamir, expressed his outrage when the administration of President George H. W. Bush called for a freeze on Jewish settlements in the occupied territories — in exchange for $10 billion in American loan guarantees — The Times reported that a senior official in the prime minister’s office, a young Benjamin Netanyahu, complained that Israel was being asked to accept, “the borders of Auschwitz.” (End quote from the New York Times)



From the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, May 18, 2011:



"Israel makes capital out of the six million to justify policies of destruction and expulsion not just in the past, but in the present and future. As the state which claims to be the heir of the Holocaust martyrs, Israel crowns itself as the winner in the global, historical competition of victimhood." --Amira Hass (end quote)



Auschwitz! Auschwitz! Auschwitz! Why this Eternal Mantra?



By Michael Hoffman



Holocaustomania, the perpetual Auschwitz of the mind, raises its morbid, tiresome, head again and again and again. Outside of the edifices of Churchianity, the eternal Auschwitz mantra finds its most fertile soil among the gentiles of the Republican party and Fox network television news, who are forever telling Medicaire and Social Security recipients, African-Americans and any U.S. worker who has lost a job to "Free trade" -- "Stop your whining and your sense of entitlement and get over it!"



But when the Zionists trot out their Auschwitz idol, and their pain, and their entitlement, and their whining - not only have they not "gotten over it” after 67 years, they've made a formal religion (“Shoah”) out of it -- then it's okay; indeed, more than okay -- just observe the Republican right wing automatically genuflect in pious, tearful, humble obeisance when any Judaic shouts "Auschwitz!"



The American right wing never tires of Auschwitz. Dresden February '45, Nagasaki August '45, Beirut August '82, Gaza January '09 and dozens of other cities holocausted by the noble Allies, or the holy "Jewish state," don't count or qualify as mantras of victimhood. The German, Japanese and Arab victims of those holocausts are expected to shut up, forever. They are not entitled to the same victim status.



Why? Because Germans, Japanese and Arabs don't have souls equal to that of the "Jews" who, their holy books inform them, possess the highest soul, the "Neshama HaElyonah," which gentiles do not possess. And now you know why the cry of "Auschwitz!" drowns out the invocation of every other holocaust.



What is lost in the scramble to validate Judaic whining and entitlement, is the fact that Palestinians must have the 1967 borders for their future state because without them they will have "Gaza borders" and die like flies, as fifteen hundred of them did in Gaza, at the hands of the Israeli army and air force, from December, 2008 through January, 2009.



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Quote from: Raven on December 22, 2010, 08:14:21 PM

I stated it before and I will again, people who think within the parameters given to them or familiar to them are not being realistic. There are no parameters in real life. Our enemies outsmart folks all the time because they have no restrictions or morals. They are the pragmatists from hell.



I firmly believe and I live my life according to this: that I owe my first allegiance to my God and Jesus Christ, my second allegiance I owe to the Constitution of the United States of America and my third allegiance to my family. And the reason my allegiance is in that order is because God endowed man with unalienable rights. The Constitution protects those rights, and the family is thus able to survive and be protected and thrive. And the family is the basic unit of civilization, period. And I further believe that any man or woman without principles that they are ready and willing to die for at any given moment that they are called upon to do it, are already dead and are of no use or consequence to anyone -- not even themselves. Understand what I just said. -Bill Cooper



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