Re: Social Security Representative Pat Tiberi reply to inquiry

John,

Forgive me, good friend, but I requested comments after forwarding this to Representative Pat Tiberi from our Congressional District. Mr. Tiberi votes a closely conservative ticket, as you probably know. His reply shows that the Congressional people receive the same retirement benefits as the federal civil servaants, I.e., CSRS or FERS. I was part of FERS over my civil service years. It is a decent plan and each participant is free to invest in it as they work for the federal government.

The message you forwarded to me has been around a while. It was debunked by Snopes, but I personally don't regard Snopes, with their definite liberal bias, as authorative.

I share with you the abhorence fo ObamaCare and its protagonists who are trying to shove it down our throats.

Respectfully,

Sam Kegley


----- Original Message -----

----- Original Message -----
From: Congressman Pat Tiberi
To: skegley@columbus.rr.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: Reply from Congressman Pat Tiberi














August 10, 2009





Mr. Samuel R. Kegley

428 Illinois Avenue

Westerville, OH 43081-2639



Dear Mr. Kegley,



Thank you for contacting my office about the retirement system in which Members of Congress participate. I welcome this opportunity to correspond with you.



Members of Congress take part in either the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) or the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS). These are the same retirement plans that federal civil servants participate in. You may be interested to know both CSRS and FERS require contributions from those who participate.



Before 1984, all federal employees were covered by CSRS. This system was designed as a comprehensive retirement and disability system that did not include payment of Social Security taxes or eligibility for Social Security benefits. The 1983 amendments to the Social Security Act required all Members, as well as new federal employees, to be covered under Social Security as of January 1984. Having mandated Social Security coverage, a new retirement system was developed for federal employees - FERS - that had Social Security coverage as its foundation. In fact, I contribute to Social Security, and will not be able to draw full Social Security retirement benefits until I reach 67 years of age.



As your Representative, constituent input is a vital element in best serving the 12th Congressional District of Ohio. Additional information and details about the FERS and CSRS systems is available via the Office of Personnel Management at www.opm.gov. Thanks again for taking a moment to share your thoughts with me. Please let me know if I may be of further assistance to you.



Sincerely,







Patrick J. Tiberi

Representative to Congress



PJT/AF



From: John Massey
To: John & Yvette Massey
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Fw: SOCIAL SECURITY:



>
> SOCIAL SECURITY:
>
> (This is worth reading. It is short and to the point.)
>
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years.
>
> Our Senators and Congressmen and women do not pay into Social
> Security and, of course, they do not collect from it.
>
> You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of
> their rare elevation in society. They felt they should have a
> special plan for themselves So, many years ago they voted in their
> own benefit plan.
>
> In more recent years, no congress person has felt the need to change
> it. After all, it is a great plan.
>
> For all practical purposes their plan works like this:
>
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die.
> Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living
> adjustments. ....
>
> For example, Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives
> may expect to draw $7, 800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Eight-
> Hundred Thousand Dollars), with their wives drawing $275, 000.00
> during the last years of their lives.
> This is calculated on an average life span for each of those two
> Dignitaries.
>
> Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will receive much
> more during the rest of their lives.
>
> Their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. NADA!!! ZILCH!!!
>
> This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and
> I pick up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement
> plan come directly from the General Funds;
>
> "OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"!
>
> From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have
> paid) into, every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by
> our employer), We can expect to get an average of
> $1,000.. per month after retirement.
>
> Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000
> monthly benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal Senator
> Bill Bradley's benefits!
>
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
>
> That change would be to.....
>
> Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and
> Congressmen and women. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest
> of us
>
> Then sit back.....
>
> And see how fast they would fix it!
>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be
> planted and maybe good changes will evolve.
>
>

AARP walks out of meeting

AARP are liberal hacks and lackeys and are for any left sided points.

Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Brown
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: Fw: [Norton AntiSpam] AARP officials walk out of meeting, refuse questions concerning ObamaCare from angry seniors


For years now, I have DESPISED AARP because these money-grubbing hypocrites are constantly selling out the very members who support them - in pension benefits, Medicare prescriptions and now in socialized Obama so-called health care package which will immediately and directly harm people 55 and older. Please take the two minutes to send them the e-mail outlined here if you agree. And thank you. Jackie


----- Original Message -----
From: AFA Action Alert
To: jackieb@earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:05 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] AARP officials walk out of meeting, refuse questions concerning ObamaCare from angry seniors




Donald E. Wildmon
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Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire e-mail list of family and friends.

AARP officials walk out of meeting, refuse questions concerning ObamaCare from angry seniors

Watch this must-see video! AARP supports government controlled health care!

August 7, 2009

Dear Jacqueline,

Senior citizens who went to a meeting sponsored by AARP were left to themselves after the AARP hostess walked out. The seniors were trying to get answers concerning ObamaCare and why AARP would support a government controlled health system that many believe would lead to euthanasia and rationing of health care. Watch the video.

Why would AARP, the nation's largest seniors group, supposedly working for the elderly, support an ObamaCare bill? Here is what Dick Morris, former advisor to President Clinton, said: "The interest groups that usually speak up for the elderly, particularly AARP, are in Obama's pocket, hoping to profit from his program by becoming one of its vendors. Just as they backed Bush's prescription drug plan because they anticipated profiting from it, so they are now helping Obama gut the medical care of their constituents."

Like the National Education Association, AARP has been taken over by liberals. With millions of members, AARP is using its clout to push ObamaCare on the elderly, even if it includes euthanasia. AARP supported homosexual marriage by opposing Prop 8 in California.

Take Action!
• Send your e-mail to AARP. If you are a member, do what the lady in Dallas did — cancel your membership. AARP is going to use membership dues to help push ObamaCare.

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• American Seniors Association (ASA) is an alternative we suggest you check out. AFA does not officially endorse ASA, but simply offers it as an alternative to AARP. We think you'll be pleased with what you see.






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Thanks Jackie Brown! I haven't belonged to AARP for years due to their obvious liberal biases.

Sam



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A Letter- Not a fairy tale

Thanks Terry Krause!


Subject: Fw: A letter




The following was written by a preacher's wife in biblical prose as a commentary of current events. It is brilliant.




And it came to pass in the Age of Insanity that the people of the land called America, having lost their morals, their initiative, and their will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that person known as "The One".

He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He hypnotized the people telling them, "I am sent to save you. My lack of experience, my questionable ethics, my monstrous ego, and my association with evil doers are of no consequence. For I shall save you with Hope and Change. Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the land that he who preceded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation, and that all he has built must be destroyed." And the people rejoiced, for even though they knew not what "The One" would do, he had promised that it was good; and they believed. And "The One" said "We live in the greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!" And the people said, "Hallelujah! Change is good!"

Then He said, "We are going to tax the rich fat-cats." And the people said "Sock it to them!" "And redistribute their wealth." And the people said, "Show us the money!" And then He said, "Redistribution of wealth is good for everybody"

And Joe the plumber asked, "Are you kidding me? You're going to steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??" And "The One" ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe's personal records were hacked and publicized.

One lone reporter asked, "Isn't that Marxist policy?" And she was banished from the kingdom!

Then a citizen asked, "With no foreign relations experience and having zero military experience or knowledge, how will you deal with radical terrorists?" And "The One" said, "Simple. I shall sit with them and talk with them and show them how nice we really are; and they will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!" And the people said, "Hallelujah!! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons into free cars for the people!"

Then "The One" said, "I shall give 95% of you lower taxes." And one, lone voice said, "But 40% of us don't pay ANY taxes." So "The One" said, "Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!" And the people said, "Hallelujah!! Show us the money!"

Then "The One" said, "I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell your homes!" And the people yawned and the slumping housing market collapsed.
And He said, "I shall mandate employer- funded health care for EVERY worker and raise the minimum wage. And I shall give every person unlimited health care and medicine and transportation to the clinics." And the people said, "Give me some of that!"Then he said, "I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas." And the people said, "Where's my rebate check?"

Then "The One" said, "I shall bankrupt the coal industry and electricity rates will skyrocket!" And the people said, "Coal is dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don't care for that part about higher electric rates." So "The One" said, "Not to worry. If your rebate isn't enough to cover your expenses, we shall bail you out. Just sign up with ACORN and your troubles are over!"

Then He said, "Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let's grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches, free medical
care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing..." And the people said, "Hallelujah!!" And they made him King!

And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others simply gave up and went out of business and the economy sank like unto a rock dropped from a cliff. The banking industry was destroyed.

Manufacturing slowed to a crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.

Then "The One" said, "I am the "The One"- The Messiah - and I'm here to save you! We shall just print more money so everyone will have enough!"
But our foreign trading partners said unto Him, "Wait a minute.. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have to pay more..." And the people said, "Wait a minute. That is unfair!!" And the world said, "Neither are these other idiotic programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and a second-rate power. Now you shall play by our rules!"

He then traveled to foreign lands and proclaimed that America is not a Christian nation and that his Muslim background and his Muslim name Barak Hussein Obama makes him their blood brother who understands their wrath against America.

And the people cried out, "Alas, alas!! What have we done?" But yea verily, it was too late. The people set upon "The One" and spat upon him and stoned him, and his name was dung. And the once mighty nation was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or shelter or hope. And the Change "The One" had given them was as like unto a poison that had destroyed them and like a whirlwind that consumed all that they had built. And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish, "Give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!" But it was too late, and their homeland was no more.

You may think this is a fairy tale, but it's not. It's happening RIGHT NOW !!!