o would use any sentence they put on the teleprompter, but not these. He loves to be in front of audiences and cameras. He would have made a good cheerleader. Oh I love to hear ME talk!
Subject: 5 Best Sentences
THE PLAN EXPLAINED!
These are possibly the 5 best (or at least most accurate) sentences
you'll ever read:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the
wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must
work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government
does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work
because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the
other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody
else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the
end of any nation.
Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I......
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Welcome to my blog http://www.skegley.blogspot.com/ . CAVEAT LECTOR- Let the reader beware. This is a Christian Conservative blog. It is not meant to offend anyone. Please feel free to ignore this blog, but also feel free to browse and comment on my posts! You may also scroll down to respond to any post.
For Christian American readers of this blog:
I wish to incite all Christians to rise up and take back the United States of America with all of God's manifold blessings. We want the free allowance of the Bible and prayers allowed again in schools, halls of justice, and all governing bodies. We don't seek a theocracy until Jesus returns to earth because all men are weak and power corrupts the very best of them.
We want to be a kinder and gentler people without slavery or condescension to any.
The world seems to be in a time of discontent among the populace. Christians should not fear. God is Love, shown best through Jesus Christ. God is still in control. All Glory to our Creator and to our God!
A favorite quote from my good friend, Jack Plymale, which I appreciate:
"Wars are planned by old men,in council rooms apart. They plan for greater armament, they map the battle chart, but: where sightless eyes stare out, beyond life's vanished joys, I've noticed,somehow, all the dead and mamed are hardly more than boys(Grantland Rice per our mutual friend, Sarah Rapp)."
Thanks Jack!
I must admit that I do not check authenticity of my posts. If anyone can tell me of a non-biased arbitrator, I will attempt to do so more regularly. I know of no such arbitrator for the internet.
For Christian American readers of this blog:
I wish to incite all Christians to rise up and take back the United States of America with all of God's manifold blessings. We want the free allowance of the Bible and prayers allowed again in schools, halls of justice, and all governing bodies. We don't seek a theocracy until Jesus returns to earth because all men are weak and power corrupts the very best of them.
We want to be a kinder and gentler people without slavery or condescension to any.
The world seems to be in a time of discontent among the populace. Christians should not fear. God is Love, shown best through Jesus Christ. God is still in control. All Glory to our Creator and to our God!
A favorite quote from my good friend, Jack Plymale, which I appreciate:
"Wars are planned by old men,in council rooms apart. They plan for greater armament, they map the battle chart, but: where sightless eyes stare out, beyond life's vanished joys, I've noticed,somehow, all the dead and mamed are hardly more than boys(Grantland Rice per our mutual friend, Sarah Rapp)."
Thanks Jack!
I must admit that I do not check authenticity of my posts. If anyone can tell me of a non-biased arbitrator, I will attempt to do so more regularly. I know of no such arbitrator for the internet.
Thursday, September 8, 2011
Thanks Dan! ... France to rule on Noriega's extradition to Panama
French court to rule on Noriega release on September 23
A French court will decide on September 23 whether or not to release former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega so he can be extradited home to face imprisonment there, his lawyer said Thursday.
Noriega, who was overthrown by a US invasion in 1989, is serving a sentence in France after being convicted of money-laundering there.
Having served five of his seven years he is eligible for parole and has asked to be released, but Prime Minister Francois Fillon has ordered that he be extradited to Panama once his sentence is over.
If and when the pock-marked 77-year-old former general, nicknamed "Pineapple Face", does arrive back in Panama, he is expected to have to begin serving the lengthy sentences he received in absentia there.
He has three convictions for gruesome human rights violations, including the death of a military commander, dating to his military rule from 1983 to 1989. Each conviction carries a 20-year prison sentence.
However, the process of getting Noriega to Panama has been complicated by the Panamanian government's sending French authorities a second extradition request, which must now also be ruled on.
Noriega's lawyer in Panama, Julio Berrios, has said that his country committed a "grave error" by sending a new extradition request.
"This is a mistake by the foreign ministry, because it is delaying and hindering the extradition process," Berrios said.
The one-time strongman was a key asset for the US Central Intelligence Agency but fell out with Washington when he allegedly turned his strategically important country into a drugs hub.
He was sentenced by a Paris court in July last year to seven years in jail for laundering the equivalent of 2.3 million euros (then $2.8 million) from Colombia's Medellin drug cartel through French banks.
The drug money transited through the now-defunct Bank of Credit and Commerce International in the late 1980s and was used by Noriega's wife and a shell company to buy three luxury apartments in Paris.
Noriega had served 20 years in a US jail in Miami for drug trafficking and money laundering before being extradited to France.
Panama has said the United States has given its approval for Noriega to be extradited from France. US consent is required under existing treaties since he had not yet served his full jail term in the United States.
Noriega rose to power in Panama as a military intelligence chief close to General Omar Torrijos, a left-leaning military strongman and father of the future president.
After Torrijos' death in a mysterious 1981 plane crash, Noriega consolidated his power, ultimately becoming the head of the military and the country's most feared man.
http://www.expatica.com/fr/news/french-news/french-court-to-rule-on-noriega-release-on-september-23_174197.html
A French court will decide on September 23 whether or not to release former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega so he can be extradited home to face imprisonment there, his lawyer said Thursday.
Noriega, who was overthrown by a US invasion in 1989, is serving a sentence in France after being convicted of money-laundering there.
Having served five of his seven years he is eligible for parole and has asked to be released, but Prime Minister Francois Fillon has ordered that he be extradited to Panama once his sentence is over.
If and when the pock-marked 77-year-old former general, nicknamed "Pineapple Face", does arrive back in Panama, he is expected to have to begin serving the lengthy sentences he received in absentia there.
He has three convictions for gruesome human rights violations, including the death of a military commander, dating to his military rule from 1983 to 1989. Each conviction carries a 20-year prison sentence.
However, the process of getting Noriega to Panama has been complicated by the Panamanian government's sending French authorities a second extradition request, which must now also be ruled on.
Noriega's lawyer in Panama, Julio Berrios, has said that his country committed a "grave error" by sending a new extradition request.
"This is a mistake by the foreign ministry, because it is delaying and hindering the extradition process," Berrios said.
The one-time strongman was a key asset for the US Central Intelligence Agency but fell out with Washington when he allegedly turned his strategically important country into a drugs hub.
He was sentenced by a Paris court in July last year to seven years in jail for laundering the equivalent of 2.3 million euros (then $2.8 million) from Colombia's Medellin drug cartel through French banks.
The drug money transited through the now-defunct Bank of Credit and Commerce International in the late 1980s and was used by Noriega's wife and a shell company to buy three luxury apartments in Paris.
Noriega had served 20 years in a US jail in Miami for drug trafficking and money laundering before being extradited to France.
Panama has said the United States has given its approval for Noriega to be extradited from France. US consent is required under existing treaties since he had not yet served his full jail term in the United States.
Noriega rose to power in Panama as a military intelligence chief close to General Omar Torrijos, a left-leaning military strongman and father of the future president.
After Torrijos' death in a mysterious 1981 plane crash, Noriega consolidated his power, ultimately becoming the head of the military and the country's most feared man.
http://www.expatica.com/fr/news/french-news/french-court-to-rule-on-noriega-release-on-september-23_174197.html
Perry-Rubio sounds good, John & Yvette Massey!
John & Yvette Massey
The Ticket Obama Fears Most
Bruce Walker / August 29, 2011
The talking heads on Fox News Special Report this Friday concurred that Marco Rubio will be on the Republican ticket next year as the vice presidential nominee. I agree.
There is virtually no downside to Rubio and the advantages to the ticket are prohibitive. He is youthful, attractive, and articulate. Rubio won a tough three-way race in Florida last year. His life story is compelling as the child of Cuban parents who worked up the hard and legal way. His conservatism on social and economic issues is unwavering. Rubio is slightly too young and inexperienced to run as president, but eight years as vice president would make him ideal presidential timber.
If Senator Rubio becomes the running mate of Governor Perry, which I believe is increasingly likely, President Obama could face his worst electoral nightmare. At the outset, both men are excellent campaigners -- articulate, likeable, attractive, and accustomed to winning elections in the diverse and large populations of Texas and Florida.
Unlike Republican nominees since Reagan, Rick Perry knows how to work crowds. Perry, like Rubio, has never lost a political race. Although it is a relatively small section of his resume, his time successfully selling Bible reference books door-to-door may be as important as background in running for president.
Both Perry and Rubio have life stories, which demonstrate that the American Dream really works. Perry grew up on a cotton tenant farm in the middle of nowhere and worked hard up every step in his path to success. Rubio's parents worked in menial jobs so that their son could have a better life.
Imagine Rubio campaigning in Las Vegas, where his parents worked like so many Hispanics today, cleaning rooms and tending bars. The greatest impact of these life stories is that the Republican ticket could say just how poor people need not stay poor if government gets out of the way.
Perry and Rubio are both social and economic conservatives.The left tries to downplay the appeal of social conservatism, but to take just a single social conservative issue, abortion, the latest Rasmussen Poll shows that 55% of Americans believe that abortion is morally wrong while only 30% believe that abortion is morally acceptable and 41% of Americans believe that it is too easy to get an abortion in America while only 14% believe that it is too hard to get an abortion.
The vanilla question about whether Americans are "pro-choice" or "pro-life" is meaningless, if Republican candidates have the gumption to ask Obama in a debate whether he believes abortion is moral or immoral -- leaving the question of federal policy on abortion aside.
This particular ticket would also have profound appeal to Hispanic voters, whose support for Obama has dropped a dramatic 36 points since he took office. The impact of Rubio on the ticket, of course, is obvious: he would be the first Hispanic on a major party ticket in American history. Big chunks of Hispanic voters in 2008 voted for Obama because he was a "person of color." Reelecting a black man president has much less psychological value to Hispanic voters than electing a Hispanic who could easily be president in eight years.
The impact of Rick Perry is real, but underestimated by Beltway punditry, which listens more to high-ranking Hispanic organizational leaders rather than ordinary Hispanics. Perry has won many statewide elections in Texas, including three as governor. Almost 40% of the state is Hispanic. Governor Perry speaks Spanish, but more than that, just as a New York City or Chicago politicians grasp the nuances of European ethnic differences, so Perry understands the largely Mexican-American minority and has steadily improved his percentage of the Hispanic vote in Texas elections.
Politically savvy Perry with the first Hispanic on a national ticket as his running mate could disarm the traditional skittishness that some Hispanics have had about voting Republican. Combine that with the very real success that Perry has had in creating jobs in Texas -- compared with Obama nationally or California Democrats -- and he could make a strong argument that Perry-Rubio is precisely what most Hispanics really want in Washington.
This could be complemented by the rise of Hispanic Republicans in 2010. Susana Martinez, the conservative Republican governor of New Mexico, next door to Texas, is a prime example. The first female Hispanic governor in American history could travel throughout the Rocky Mountain region touting a Perry-Rubio ticket. It is not just Hispanic "people of color" that could connect with Hispanics. Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley, both articulate and strongly Republican governors could both show that conservatives welcome immigrants from lands as distant as India.
Black voters will go overwhelmingly for Obama, but black voters vote overwhelmingly for Democrats no matter what Republicans have tried. If Hispanic voters, already accustomed to conservative Republicans senators and governors, vote in substantial numbers for conservative Republicans at the national level, then not only is Obama in trouble, but so is his party. That is why Perry-Rubio could be the ticket Democrats fears most.
The Ticket Obama Fears Most
Bruce Walker / August 29, 2011
The talking heads on Fox News Special Report this Friday concurred that Marco Rubio will be on the Republican ticket next year as the vice presidential nominee. I agree.
There is virtually no downside to Rubio and the advantages to the ticket are prohibitive. He is youthful, attractive, and articulate. Rubio won a tough three-way race in Florida last year. His life story is compelling as the child of Cuban parents who worked up the hard and legal way. His conservatism on social and economic issues is unwavering. Rubio is slightly too young and inexperienced to run as president, but eight years as vice president would make him ideal presidential timber.
If Senator Rubio becomes the running mate of Governor Perry, which I believe is increasingly likely, President Obama could face his worst electoral nightmare. At the outset, both men are excellent campaigners -- articulate, likeable, attractive, and accustomed to winning elections in the diverse and large populations of Texas and Florida.
Unlike Republican nominees since Reagan, Rick Perry knows how to work crowds. Perry, like Rubio, has never lost a political race. Although it is a relatively small section of his resume, his time successfully selling Bible reference books door-to-door may be as important as background in running for president.
Both Perry and Rubio have life stories, which demonstrate that the American Dream really works. Perry grew up on a cotton tenant farm in the middle of nowhere and worked hard up every step in his path to success. Rubio's parents worked in menial jobs so that their son could have a better life.
Imagine Rubio campaigning in Las Vegas, where his parents worked like so many Hispanics today, cleaning rooms and tending bars. The greatest impact of these life stories is that the Republican ticket could say just how poor people need not stay poor if government gets out of the way.
Perry and Rubio are both social and economic conservatives.The left tries to downplay the appeal of social conservatism, but to take just a single social conservative issue, abortion, the latest Rasmussen Poll shows that 55% of Americans believe that abortion is morally wrong while only 30% believe that abortion is morally acceptable and 41% of Americans believe that it is too easy to get an abortion in America while only 14% believe that it is too hard to get an abortion.
The vanilla question about whether Americans are "pro-choice" or "pro-life" is meaningless, if Republican candidates have the gumption to ask Obama in a debate whether he believes abortion is moral or immoral -- leaving the question of federal policy on abortion aside.
This particular ticket would also have profound appeal to Hispanic voters, whose support for Obama has dropped a dramatic 36 points since he took office. The impact of Rubio on the ticket, of course, is obvious: he would be the first Hispanic on a major party ticket in American history. Big chunks of Hispanic voters in 2008 voted for Obama because he was a "person of color." Reelecting a black man president has much less psychological value to Hispanic voters than electing a Hispanic who could easily be president in eight years.
The impact of Rick Perry is real, but underestimated by Beltway punditry, which listens more to high-ranking Hispanic organizational leaders rather than ordinary Hispanics. Perry has won many statewide elections in Texas, including three as governor. Almost 40% of the state is Hispanic. Governor Perry speaks Spanish, but more than that, just as a New York City or Chicago politicians grasp the nuances of European ethnic differences, so Perry understands the largely Mexican-American minority and has steadily improved his percentage of the Hispanic vote in Texas elections.
Politically savvy Perry with the first Hispanic on a national ticket as his running mate could disarm the traditional skittishness that some Hispanics have had about voting Republican. Combine that with the very real success that Perry has had in creating jobs in Texas -- compared with Obama nationally or California Democrats -- and he could make a strong argument that Perry-Rubio is precisely what most Hispanics really want in Washington.
This could be complemented by the rise of Hispanic Republicans in 2010. Susana Martinez, the conservative Republican governor of New Mexico, next door to Texas, is a prime example. The first female Hispanic governor in American history could travel throughout the Rocky Mountain region touting a Perry-Rubio ticket. It is not just Hispanic "people of color" that could connect with Hispanics. Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley, both articulate and strongly Republican governors could both show that conservatives welcome immigrants from lands as distant as India.
Black voters will go overwhelmingly for Obama, but black voters vote overwhelmingly for Democrats no matter what Republicans have tried. If Hispanic voters, already accustomed to conservative Republicans senators and governors, vote in substantial numbers for conservative Republicans at the national level, then not only is Obama in trouble, but so is his party. That is why Perry-Rubio could be the ticket Democrats fears most.
Barack Bingo! Thanks John Massey!
Subject: I think you'll like this....
Here (below) is something to help make Obama's speeches almost tolerable. Just print this page, distribute it to friends, then tune in to his next speech........
Rules for Bullshit Bingo:
1. Before Barrack Obama's next televised speech, print your "Bullshit Bingo"
2. Check off the appropriate block when you hear one of those words/phrases.
3. When you get five blocks horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, stand up and shout "BULLSHIT!"
Here (below) is something to help make Obama's speeches almost tolerable. Just print this page, distribute it to friends, then tune in to his next speech........
Rules for Bullshit Bingo:
1. Before Barrack Obama's next televised speech, print your "Bullshit Bingo"
2. Check off the appropriate block when you hear one of those words/phrases.
3. When you get five blocks horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, stand up and shout "BULLSHIT!"
Dallas traffic problem solution ... Thanks Ron Walters!
Recently, the City of Dallas , Texas , passed an ordinance stating that if
a driver is pulled over by law enforcement and is not able to provide proof
of insurance, the car is towed.
To retrieve the car after being impounded, they must show proof of insurance
to have the car released This has made it easy for the City of Dallas to
remove uninsured cars.
Shortly after the "No Insurance" ordinance was passed, the Dallas impound
lots began to fill up and were full after only nine days. 80 + % of the
impounded cars were driven by illegals.
Not only must they provide proof of insurance to have their car released,
they have to pay for the cost of the tow, a $350 fine, and $20 for every
day their car is kept in the lot.
Accident rates are going down and... Dallas' solution gets uninsured
drivers off the road WITHOUT making them show proof of nationality.
Wonder how the ACLU or the Justice Department will get around this one.
Just brings tears to my eyes.
GO Dallas!
*The economy......**You cannot get the water to clear up until you get the
pigs out of the creek. **
If you don't vote, you don't care.
a driver is pulled over by law enforcement and is not able to provide proof
of insurance, the car is towed.
To retrieve the car after being impounded, they must show proof of insurance
to have the car released This has made it easy for the City of Dallas to
remove uninsured cars.
Shortly after the "No Insurance" ordinance was passed, the Dallas impound
lots began to fill up and were full after only nine days. 80 + % of the
impounded cars were driven by illegals.
Not only must they provide proof of insurance to have their car released,
they have to pay for the cost of the tow, a $350 fine, and $20 for every
day their car is kept in the lot.
Accident rates are going down and... Dallas' solution gets uninsured
drivers off the road WITHOUT making them show proof of nationality.
Wonder how the ACLU or the Justice Department will get around this one.
Just brings tears to my eyes.
GO Dallas!
*The economy......**You cannot get the water to clear up until you get the
pigs out of the creek. **
If you don't vote, you don't care.
Fox News report on the Republican debate last night
I was asleep during last night's 'debate' but I am interested- just too tired from finishing my ninth book. I agree with Gingrich that the real plan should be to defeat obama and it is time to seriously start that. We had better forget this 'old republican vs. the Tea Party stuff'. Four more years of o and we will be under the world leader obama as a socialist nation if not under a true dictatorship. For me it is a Perry- Bachman ticket to put o out of office, turn some things around, and cease listening to the national leftist media.
Romney, Perry Spar at Presidential Debate as GOP Hopefuls Take On Obama, Each Other
Published September 07, 2011
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Spet. 7: Republican presidential candidates former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, left, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, stand together before a Republican presidential candidate debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, Calif.
The two titans of the Republican presidential contest hammered each other over job creation and Social Security on Wednesday night, as Rick Perry got his first chance to articulate his campaign message on the national debate stage.
The Texas governor sparred early and often with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, whom he has overtaken as front-runner since joining the race a month ago. With Perry trying to defend that position and Romney trying to reclaim it, the two came armed with zingers to take each other down a peg.
"Michael Dukakis created jobs three times faster than you did, Mitt,” Perry quipped, in a stinging reference to the former Massachusetts governor who lost the presidential election to George H.W. Bush.
Romney immediately shot back that “George Bush and his predecessors created jobs at a faster rate than you did.”
The critiques were among multiple rapid-fire exchanges between the two candidates, who shared the stage with six other White House hopefuls at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., a symbolic setting that invoked the memory of the conservative Republican who swept to two terms as president.
The debate also marked a key test for Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, whose prospects rose last month with her win in the Iowa Straw Poll only to be overshadowed by Perry's entrance into the race.
None of the GOP contenders had anything positive to say about Obama, either his record on creating jobs or the health care law they have vowed to repeal if they win the White House.
Bachmann said she would provide the "strong, bold leader in the presidency who will lead that effort. None of us should ever think that the repeal bill will just come to our desk," she said in a pledge that drew applause from the audience.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich resisted an effort to draw him into conflict with other Republicans on stage. "I'm frankly not interested in your efforts to get Republicans fighting each other," he said, sparking an even louder round of applause. He said all Republicans should "defeat efforts by the news media" to spark an internal struggle when the real objective is to defeat Obama in 2012.
But moments later, businessman Herman Cain said that after trying to defeat Democratic efforts to create national health care, "I'm running against Romneycare," the legislation that passed requiring residents of Massachusetts to purchase coverage.
Perry -- who, after taking several jabs from the other candidates, said he felt like "the pinata here at the party" -- had first claimed his state created more jobs in three months than Massachusetts created in four years while Romney was governor.
Romney, in response, chalked up Texas’ success to its oil and gas sector and policies maintained by a Republican legislature, which he said Perry could not claim credit to. “It would be like Al Gore saying he invented the Internet,” Romney said.
To distinguish himself, Romney stressed his experience in the private sector over his experience as Massachusetts’ governor. But Perry, while praising Romney’s business record, said “his public-sector record did not match that.”
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman sided with Perry when he turned to Romney and said, "47th just isn't going to cut it, my friend," a reference to the rank Massachusetts had among the 50 states in creating jobs during Romney's term.
But he also sought to rebut Perry's claim to be chief executive of the country's top job-producing state.
"I hate to rain on the parade of the great Lone Star State governor, but as governor of Utah, we were the No. 1 job creator during my years in service," Huntsman said.
Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania rounded out the contenders on the stage for the debate hosted by MSNBC and Politico.
The debate was the first of three in as many weeks, at a time the polls show Obama's popularity sinking, possibly making the GOP nomination worth more than it appeared only a few months ago.
Perry and Romney also sparred sharply over Social Security, with Romney criticizing Perry for calling the retirement safety net a failure and “Ponzi scheme.”
Romney said he agrees the current funding formula for Social Security is not sound. But he disagreed that it’s a failure. “You can’t say that to tens of millions of Americans who live on Social Security,” he said.
Perry stood by his remarks, saying “maybe it’s time to have some provocative language.”
He also took a swing at former Bush adviser Karl Rove, who has criticized Perry’s remarks on Social Security and other topics. “Karl has been over the top for a long time. … I’m not responsible for Karl anymore,” Perry said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/07/romney-perry-both-claim-better-jobs-record-in-debate/#ixzz1XLdhp2FH
Romney, Perry Spar at Presidential Debate as GOP Hopefuls Take On Obama, Each Other
Published September 07, 2011
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Spet. 7: Republican presidential candidates former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, left, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, stand together before a Republican presidential candidate debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, Calif.
The two titans of the Republican presidential contest hammered each other over job creation and Social Security on Wednesday night, as Rick Perry got his first chance to articulate his campaign message on the national debate stage.
The Texas governor sparred early and often with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, whom he has overtaken as front-runner since joining the race a month ago. With Perry trying to defend that position and Romney trying to reclaim it, the two came armed with zingers to take each other down a peg.
"Michael Dukakis created jobs three times faster than you did, Mitt,” Perry quipped, in a stinging reference to the former Massachusetts governor who lost the presidential election to George H.W. Bush.
Romney immediately shot back that “George Bush and his predecessors created jobs at a faster rate than you did.”
The critiques were among multiple rapid-fire exchanges between the two candidates, who shared the stage with six other White House hopefuls at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., a symbolic setting that invoked the memory of the conservative Republican who swept to two terms as president.
The debate also marked a key test for Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, whose prospects rose last month with her win in the Iowa Straw Poll only to be overshadowed by Perry's entrance into the race.
None of the GOP contenders had anything positive to say about Obama, either his record on creating jobs or the health care law they have vowed to repeal if they win the White House.
Bachmann said she would provide the "strong, bold leader in the presidency who will lead that effort. None of us should ever think that the repeal bill will just come to our desk," she said in a pledge that drew applause from the audience.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich resisted an effort to draw him into conflict with other Republicans on stage. "I'm frankly not interested in your efforts to get Republicans fighting each other," he said, sparking an even louder round of applause. He said all Republicans should "defeat efforts by the news media" to spark an internal struggle when the real objective is to defeat Obama in 2012.
But moments later, businessman Herman Cain said that after trying to defeat Democratic efforts to create national health care, "I'm running against Romneycare," the legislation that passed requiring residents of Massachusetts to purchase coverage.
Perry -- who, after taking several jabs from the other candidates, said he felt like "the pinata here at the party" -- had first claimed his state created more jobs in three months than Massachusetts created in four years while Romney was governor.
Romney, in response, chalked up Texas’ success to its oil and gas sector and policies maintained by a Republican legislature, which he said Perry could not claim credit to. “It would be like Al Gore saying he invented the Internet,” Romney said.
To distinguish himself, Romney stressed his experience in the private sector over his experience as Massachusetts’ governor. But Perry, while praising Romney’s business record, said “his public-sector record did not match that.”
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman sided with Perry when he turned to Romney and said, "47th just isn't going to cut it, my friend," a reference to the rank Massachusetts had among the 50 states in creating jobs during Romney's term.
But he also sought to rebut Perry's claim to be chief executive of the country's top job-producing state.
"I hate to rain on the parade of the great Lone Star State governor, but as governor of Utah, we were the No. 1 job creator during my years in service," Huntsman said.
Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania rounded out the contenders on the stage for the debate hosted by MSNBC and Politico.
The debate was the first of three in as many weeks, at a time the polls show Obama's popularity sinking, possibly making the GOP nomination worth more than it appeared only a few months ago.
Perry and Romney also sparred sharply over Social Security, with Romney criticizing Perry for calling the retirement safety net a failure and “Ponzi scheme.”
Romney said he agrees the current funding formula for Social Security is not sound. But he disagreed that it’s a failure. “You can’t say that to tens of millions of Americans who live on Social Security,” he said.
Perry stood by his remarks, saying “maybe it’s time to have some provocative language.”
He also took a swing at former Bush adviser Karl Rove, who has criticized Perry’s remarks on Social Security and other topics. “Karl has been over the top for a long time. … I’m not responsible for Karl anymore,” Perry said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/07/romney-perry-both-claim-better-jobs-record-in-debate/#ixzz1XLdhp2FH
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