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From: ramey hoskins
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 16:03
Subject: Fw: The REAL ISLAMIST THREAT -- EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS -- the debate
Some of the emails generate rather heated exchanges. I call it healthy debate. The following are exchanges between a couple of the protaganists. Rather heated wouldn't you say?
I'm in receipt of your latest juvenile screed. If Brigitte is what you claim -- apparently pro ISLAM, -- WHY was she @ the ANTI-Ground Zero Mosque rally? I sent an email on THAT over a month ago. Will re-send it to you, FYI.
WRT to Obama, who you accuse me of slandering, that BORN-MUSLIM TRAITOR HATES this country and SET HIS SIGHTS on DESTROYING it since BEFORE he was an Illinois senator. WRT me, I am a retired OSD & private sector civilian, not ex military as you ASSUME, but that makes NO difference. Like you PRESUME yourself to be, I dedicated my life to defense of this country and preparedness AGAINST such threats to our national security as Barack Hussein Obama and Worldwide ISLAMISM, BOTH of which you CHOOSE to IGNORE. Additionally, you NEVER have given a SHRED of PROOF that I am wrong, other than CRY LIKE a BABY that I "offend" you -- and -- supposedly -- others cut from your LEFTIST, head-in-sand cloth... I am MORE a PATRIOT than you are, ever WAS or ever will BE -- you -- a SMUG, SELF-important, FACTLESS, LEFTIST Kool-Aid drinker.
WRT the Obama girls, they probably asked their dad already why so many hate & disagree with him & his MARXIST policies, & likely got his usual teleprompter-aided sound bites in response; they've got to be idiots not to know the polls... and, INSTEAD of going to PUBLIC SCHOOLS, as Obama's worshipful voters might expect, the REdistributive Obamas HYPOCRITICALLY sent them to a fancy, elitist, rich-kid DC PRIVATE school, where, I'm sure, the students are instructed to read media & "keep up" with current events. Of course, most of the media are enslaved by the LEFT, as you know. CONTRARY to your allegations, I've NEVER said a negative thing about those two young African-American ladies. Luckily for them, they were born to Michelle & Barack, and not some man-abandoned single mother in a ghetto, as are 70% of such children. (Don't DARE accuse me of making a "racist" remark here; these are facts.)
Contrary to your SICK assumptions, I am quite sane & recognize the REAL THREAT of Obama -- and ISLAMISM -- to YOUR country, & -- UNLIKE the likes of YOU & those LIKE YOU -- REFUSE to SWALLOW the Ayers & Alinsky-inspired MARXIST SPEND & TAX -- & ISLAMIST-appeasing -- SPUTUM Obama is ramming down our collective throats.
Finally, in spite of your threats & childish, bullying attempts @ intimidation, I have NO interest in meeting a self-righteous, blowhard blabbermouth like you. Go away -- back under the rock from whence you crawled!!!
Why don't you try the link below while you're at it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE
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From: SkiTech with gMail [mailto:skitech.in.egypt@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:29 AM
To: sunnyjim
Cc: 0a - Ken Brower - Home; 0a - Ken & Jasmit Freeman; 0a - Frederick (Rick&Myrna) Hogarth - Home; 0a - Dan McKinnon; 0a - Chuck Myers; 0a - Ben Carrol - Home
Subject: Re: The REAL ISLAMIST THREAT -- EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS
OD
She never made any of the political implications and most of the words noted as hers in your web trash. If I and others are self-appointed in anything it is not so, if we are quite concerned that a retired officer that served under our flag is fully engaged in his retirement that accepts a government pension and full healthcare system as a proponent of vile racists lies and manipulations of what is written by good people and uses them to attack the very system that has made you fat dumb and happy, then so be it. I am particularly upset with your hateful characterization of the First Family, it is not your right to do that in any way, it brings stink to the code of honor you signed on to. And, especially over the fact that there is a chance that the Obama children will eventually get to see those horrible and hateful images in any number of ways, how are they to grasp and understanding of their lives in our country. It is cruel and contemptible and since I have grandchildren at the same age I can not accept that a serving officer could even dare to conduct himself in such a manner. You are despicable in your callus disregard for all decency or reverence to any humanity not perceived aligned to your twisted value system . The Brigitte Gabriel dump was the last straw and it appears that you have not one single understanding of what you sent out under you name "OD or SUNNYJIM" or are those handles how you think you can be protected from exposure as some naughty little malicious child practicing all the perverted gabs that you take such pride in.
Since I've had it, that you will not drop me from your distribution list, I feel it is time I find you. I have lots of time and cross the country often. I want to meet you face to face, I have to see what you are first hand, and I am afraid I will find something too sad to show my disgust, but clearly it is time, no sane human would make the choices you have. I have also started to pass your emails to the Whitehouse via my Facebook link to them with all their glowing and repulsive comments. They are definitely not worried about them but it is important to know that a retired USAF officer of rank is dedicating his life to hatemail and vile attacks on innocent citizens including the children of the President. Since you also are supposed to be an MIT graduate, wouldn't you feel proud if the MIT News was placed on your distribution, as they may know the famous "SUNNYJIM" first hand.
I've had it OD, tell me where to come, I'll be there; it is simple, you disgust me and all that you do, I need to prove that you are not some pathetic individual affected by a terrible brain disease, and if you are something else, then God help us.
Dick Pawloski
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From: sunnyjim
To: 'SkiTech with gMail'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: The REAL ISLAMIST THREAT -- EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS
I have QUOTED Brigitte MANY times Dick -- straight from her site. YOU are the SICK, self-appointed GOD, who ought to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!
Brigitte has been speaking out on the WORLDWIDE THREAT OF ISLAMISM FOR YEARS!!
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From: SkiTech with gMail [mailto:skitech.in.egypt@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:02 PM
To: sunnyjim
Subject: Re: The REAL ISLAMIST THREAT -- EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS
Do you realize that you and your friends have defamed Brigitte Gabriel with your trash dump on the net. You have totally mis-quoted her and added new words and twisted the meaning of others for your own sick political agenda. I have known this woman and her family for some time and this bothers me very much. I think it would be time to know your full name and address because this should be presented to them with a proper introduction on you. God help you OD because you are doing so much harm to too so many decent people, and you don't seem to care one bit. What ever good and value you may have done in the past is now far outweighed by this consistent string of these harmful lies and fabrications that get twisted to meet your own deranged personal political purposes, and that causes deliberate suffering to people. It is now time for some accountability.
Ski
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From: sunnyjim
To: sunnyjim
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:21 AM
Subject: The REAL ISLAMIST THREAT -- EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS
I'm very much indebted to Frances, David, Dale & others for forwarding this CRUCIAL EXPOSE of the REAL
WORLD youthful experiences of Lebanese Christian Brigitte Gabriel at he hands of Lebanese ISLAMIST MURDERERS. In excerpts from a recent speech she gave in DC (below), she DETAILS the FULL EXTENT of the THREAT of ISLAM AND ISLAMISTS to AMERICAN -- and WESTERN -- FREEDOM...that OBAMA and the LEFT DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW!!!
PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY AND PASS IT ON TO YOUR ADDRESS BOOK.
O'D
Editor's Note: Below are selected excerpts from Brigitte Gabriel's speech delivered at the Intelligence Summit in Washington DC
Brigitte Gabriel is an expert on the Middle East conflict and lectures nationally and internationally on the subject. She's the former news anchor of World News for Middle East television and the founder of AmericanCongressforTruth.com
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010
EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO READ THIS
TAKE THE TIME READ THIS THROUGH
She gave this speech at Duke University also.
Brigitte Gabriel
We gather here today to share information and knowledge. Intelligence is not merely cold hard data about numerical strength or armament or disposition of military forces. The most important element of intelligence has to understand the mindset and intention of the enemy. The West has been wallowing in a state of ignorance and denial for thirty years as Muslim extremists perpetrated evil against innocent victims in the name of Allah.
I was ten years old when my home exploded around me, burying me under the rubble and leaving me to drink my blood to survive, as the perpetrators shouted, 'Allah Akbar!' My only crime was that I was a Christian living in a Christian town. At 10 years old, I learned the meaning of the word 'infidel.'
I had a crash course in survival. Not in the Girl Scouts, but in a bomb shelter where I lived for seven years in pitch darkness, freezing cold, drinking stale water and eating grass to live. At the age of 13, I dressed in my burial clothes going to bed at night, waiting to be slaughtered. By the age of 20, I had buried most of my friends--killed by Muslims. We were not Americans living in New York, or Britons in London. We were Arab Christians living in Lebanon.
As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves 'Why do they hate us?' The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if America and the West were paying attention to the Middle East they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: 'infidels.'
Under the banner of Islam 'la, ilaha illa Allah, muhammad rasoulu Allah,' (None is god except Allah; Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah) they murdered Jewish children in Israel, massacred Christians in Lebanon, killed Copts in Egypt, Assyrians in Syria, Hindus in India, and expelled almost 900,000 Jews from Muslim lands. We Middle Eastern infidels paid the price then. Now infidels worldwide are paying the price for indifference and shortsightedness.
Tolerating evil is a crime. Appeasing murderers [O'D NOTE: As TRAITOROUS MUSLIM-BORN OBAMA IS DOING!!!] doesn't buy protection. It earns one disrespect and loathing in the enemy's eyes. Yet apathy is the weapon by which the West is committing suicide. Political correctness [O'D NOTE: Such as Bloomberg, et al, are following on the Ground Zero VICTORY MOSQUE!!!] forms the shackles around our ankles, by which Islamists are leading us to our demise.
America and the West are doomed to failure in this war unless they stand up and identify the real enemy: Islam. You hear about Cahaba and Salafi Islam as the only extreme forms of Islam. All the other Muslims, supposedly, are wonderful moderates. Closer to the truth are the pictures of the irrational eruptions of violence in reaction to the cartoons of Mohammed printed by a Danish newspaper. From burning embassies, to calls to butcher those who mock Islam, to warnings that the West be prepared for another holocaust, those pictures have given us a glimpse into the real face of the enemy. News pictures and video of these events represent a canvas of hate decorated by different nationalities who share one common ideology of hate, bigotry and intolerance derived from one source: authentic Islam. An Islam that is awakening from centuries of slumber to re-ignite its wrath against the infidel and dominate the world. An Islam which has declared 'Intifada' on the West.
America and the West no longer can afford to lie in their lazy state of overweight ignorance. The consequences of this mental disease are starting to attack the body, and if they don't take the necessary steps now to control it, death will be knocking soon. If you want to understand the nature of the enemy we face, visualize a tapestry of snakes. They slither and they hiss, and they would eat each other alive, but they will unite in a hideous mass to achieve their common goal of imposing Islam on the world.
This is the ugly face of the enemy we are fighting. We are fighting a powerful ideology that is capable of altering basic human instincts. An ideology that can turn a mother into a launching pad of death. A perfect example is a recently elected Hamas official in the Palestinian Territories who raves in heavenly joy about sending her three sons to death and offering the ones who are still alive for the cause. It is an ideology that is capable of offering highly educated individuals such as doctors and lawyers far more joy in attaining death than any respect and stature life in society is ever capable of giving them.
The United States has been a prime target for radical Islamic hatred and terror. Every Friday, mosques in the Middle East ring with shrill prayers and monotonous chants calling death, destruction and damnation down on America and its people. The radical Islamist deeds have been as vile as their words. Since the Iran hostage crisis, more than three thousand Americans have died in a terror campaign almost unprecedented in its calculated cruelty along with thousands of other citizens worldwide. Even the Nazis did not turn their own children into human bombs, and then rejoice at their deaths as well the deaths of their victims. This intentional, indiscriminate and wholesale murder of innocent American citizens is justified and glorified in the name of Islam.
America cannot defend itself effectively in this war unless and until the American people understand the nature of the enemy that we face. Even after 9/11 there are those who say [O'D: Like MUSLIM-BORN OBAMA & his LEFTIST CRONIES] that we must engage our terrorist enemies, that we must address their grievances. Their grievance is our freedom of religion. Their grievance is our freedom of speech. Their grievance is our democratic process where the rule of law comes from the voices of many not that of just one prophet. It is the respect we instill in our children towards all religions. It is the equality we grant each other as human beings sharing a planet and striving to make the world a better place for all humanity. Their grievance is the kindness and respect a man shows a woman, the justice we practice as equals under the law, and the mercy we grant our enemy. Their grievance cannot be answered by an apology for whom or what we are.
Our mediocre attitude of not confronting Islamic forces of bigotry and hatred wherever they raised their ugly head in the last 30 years, has empowered and strengthened our enemy to launch a full scale attack on the very freedoms we cherish in their effort to impose their values and way of life on our civilization.
If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it, if we don't believe in ourselves as Americans and in the standards we should hold every patriotic American to, we are going to pay a price for our delusion. For the sake of our children and our country, we must wake up and take action. In the face of a torrent of hateful invective and terrorist murder, America's learning curve since the Iran hostage crisis is so shallow that it is almost flat. The longer we lay supine, the more difficult it will be to stand erect.
This is all coming true. A non-patriot pro-Muslim is President of this great country. How can this happen?? APATHY, that's how!!! Send this around.
