I wish Ronald Reagan were still here, but I would also like for Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, or Harry Truman to be around. Some elegant person has to come in and help us get America back. The liberals are so bent on winning that they care less about America's future.
Sam
Sunday, April 25, 2010
Dr. Jeff Gordon's teaching at Xenos Cafe in Westerville this am
I particularly enjoyed Dr. (M.D.)Jeff Gordon's message this morning. It made me think of my friend, Dawood Kahn's epistle on Israel that I posted below this:
Dr. Gordon spoke about Paul's message to the Corin thian Church 1 Corinthians 9:19-23. In it Paul speaks of agreeing with legal points of any group he is with but sticking to the message that the real message is that God loved each of us so much that He sent his son to live here, walk among us and then suffer the awful death on the cross for each of us sinners.
Paul spoke of how he was immersed in all the things of a Jew and Pharisee and even persecuted Christians. In Phillipians 3:3-9 Paul goes on to say "I have put aside all else counting it worth less than nothing when I can have Christ Jesus .../".
Im all discussions, we may experience differences as many do but may not comment with my posts, but still please know that this sinner means well for each who take time to read my posts.
Sam
Dr. Gordon spoke about Paul's message to the Corin thian Church 1 Corinthians 9:19-23. In it Paul speaks of agreeing with legal points of any group he is with but sticking to the message that the real message is that God loved each of us so much that He sent his son to live here, walk among us and then suffer the awful death on the cross for each of us sinners.
Paul spoke of how he was immersed in all the things of a Jew and Pharisee and even persecuted Christians. In Phillipians 3:3-9 Paul goes on to say "I have put aside all else counting it worth less than nothing when I can have Christ Jesus .../".
Im all discussions, we may experience differences as many do but may not comment with my posts, but still please know that this sinner means well for each who take time to read my posts.
Sam
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Israel has the Right to live under a Government of their choosing! They have the right to exist as they are now.
In Middle East, Military, Politics, Religion, Stupidity, islam on April 25, 2010 at 12:01 am
Right:
18. a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral: You have a right to say what you please.
19. Sometimes, rights. that which is due to anyone by just claim, legal guarantees, moral principles, etc.: women’s rights; Freedom of speech is a right of all Americans.
Their claim to the land in which they lived. Their claim to the land which they purchased. Their right to live under governance of their own choosing as opposed to being forced to live under an Islamic Despotic State.
My opinion is that they had/have this right.
Would we deny this right to ourselves.
In 1948, there was no real and just governance or government in that region. It was a mandate. Once the mandate ended, the people should have been able to choose their form of government. The Muslim despots wanted to force all and sundry to live under Islamic rule or authoritarian, monarchic rule. The Jews did not wish to live in a state of that kind. They did not wish to live under a government that was wholly corrupt and historically pre-disposed to violence and genocide towards non-Muslims in general and Jews in particular.
Therefore, I say that the people of the area had a right to choose and fight for the governance of their liking. They had to right to fight to not be forced to live under Islamic rule.
If the Muslims didn’t like it, they had the choice to fight it. They have and they do.
I don’t think that we have blindly supported Israel. Anyone who resorts that that hyperbole is wholly ignorant of the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict or lying to make their point seem better.
The Israelis have more or less been our allies in the region since ’48. We have acted counter to their security interests at times. They have acted violently towards us and at times, they have acted counter to our national interests. Over all, we have acted with each other in accordance with the standard practices and behaviors of allies.
The Muslims have almost never acted as allies. More often that not, they have diabolically and diametrically opposite of how an ally would act towards us. The Arabs sided with the wrong side in World War I. The Arabs sided with Hitler in World War II. Going so far as to travel to Berlin to learn the art of the Final Solution so as to import it to the Middle East. In order so that they might use the Final Solution on the Jews of the Levant. In the Cold War, Syria and Egypt both sought to be non-aligned until they were obviously in the Soviet Camp. By then, it was obvious that non-alignment meant taking money from the West and Tactical/Strategic aid, advisors and equipment from the Soviets.
We should have severed ties with the Arabs decades ago.
The Israelis had just as much right to an Independent Nation in the areas that comprised the Palestine Mandate as did any other people who lived there. The Jews created the major cities. The Jews created the jobs to which the Arabs flocked in mass numbers in the area. If it weren’t for the Jews who live[d] in Palestine, there would be nothing over which to fight in the area.
If the Jews were to leave Palestine, they’d take with them their technology, their labor and the area would return to the dust from whence it sprang.
Economic right. They created the economy of Palestine. Were it not for the Jews, there’d be a few date farms and a few thousand sheep and some dusty old towns wherein lived naught but poverty stricken Muslims.
The Jews are the only reason that the area is worth having. Without them, there would be absolutely nothing there.
For a great example, look to the Sinai. When the Israelis occupied it, they civilized the land. Cultivated the land. Irrigated the land. They started pulling oil out of the Sinai. You can see the remains of the old Israeli settlements. Even as remains after having been bulldozed by the Israeli Gov’t in order to keep the settlers from returning, they’re still more habitable than the Arab/Egyptian towns. Oil production is almost nil. The ARabs can do almost nothing without outside assistance.
Israel had to go to Egypt and show the Egyptian government how to irrigate and desalinize to save their cotton crops. Egypt! One of the oldest civilization on the planet is no longer able to properly irrigate their crops without the assistance of Israeli science and technology.
The Israeli people had the right to choose the government under which they would live.
The Arabs wanted to force them to live under Muslim rule. The Arabs wanted submission.
That is why I can not, will not support he Arabs in this conflict.
The Israelis should have driven all of the Palestinian Arabs into Jordan. Jordan is the true homeland of the Palestinians.
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/essays-on-france/paris-notes-fall-2o05/
http://middleeastfacts.com/images/thearabworld.gif
http://www.danielpipes.org/6257/arabs-israelis-and-underdogs
All of the Nations not in Blue are Muslim countries. Yet, they [the Muslims] must have this spec of blue territory as well. Why?
Number English Français עברית العربية
Israel / Israël 1 Israel Israël اسرائيل
Gaza strip & West Bank /
Bande de Gaza et Cisjordanie 2 Gaza strip Bande de Gaza
3 West Bank Cisjordanie
Arab Nations / Nations arabes 4 Morocco Maroc
5 Algeria Algérie
6 Tunisia Tunisie
7 Libya Libye
8 Sudan Soudan
9 Djibouti Djibouti
10 Somalia Somalie
11 Oman Oman
12 U.A.E. E.A.U.
13 Qatar Qatar
14 Kuwait Koweït
15 Mauritania Mauritanie
16 Comoros Comores
Have been in war with Israel /
Ont été en guerre avec Israël 17 Saudi Arabia Arabie Saoudite
18 Iraq Irak
19 Syria Syrie
20 Jordan Jordanie
21 Lebanon Liban
22 Egypt Egypte
23 Yemen Yemen
▶ One Response
You speak as an historian and a traveler among these nations, Dave. The current adnministratiobn in America does not represent “We the people” of America in their anti-Israeli talks and moves. They cannot stand our honesty in free speech.
I pray for the God of Christians and Jews to bless your words.
Sam
Reply
SamKat
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Arab Israeli Conflict, Egypt, islam, Israel, Muslim, Terrorism
Israel has the Right to live under a Government of their choosing! They have the right to exist as they are now.
In Middle East, Military, Politics, Religion, Stupidity, islam on April 25, 2010 at 12:01 am
Right:
18. a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral: You have a right to say what you please.
19. Sometimes, rights. that which is due to anyone by just claim, legal guarantees, moral principles, etc.: women’s rights; Freedom of speech is a right of all Americans.
Their claim to the land in which they lived. Their claim to the land which they purchased. Their right to live under governance of their own choosing as opposed to being forced to live under an Islamic Despotic State.
My opinion is that they had/have this right.
Would we deny this right to ourselves.
In 1948, there was no real and just governance or government in that region. It was a mandate. Once the mandate ended, the people should have been able to choose their form of government. The Muslim despots wanted to force all and sundry to live under Islamic rule or authoritarian, monarchic rule. The Jews did not wish to live in a state of that kind. They did not wish to live under a government that was wholly corrupt and historically pre-disposed to violence and genocide towards non-Muslims in general and Jews in particular.
Therefore, I say that the people of the area had a right to choose and fight for the governance of their liking. They had to right to fight to not be forced to live under Islamic rule.
If the Muslims didn’t like it, they had the choice to fight it. They have and they do.
I don’t think that we have blindly supported Israel. Anyone who resorts that that hyperbole is wholly ignorant of the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict or lying to make their point seem better.
The Israelis have more or less been our allies in the region since ’48. We have acted counter to their security interests at times. They have acted violently towards us and at times, they have acted counter to our national interests. Over all, we have acted with each other in accordance with the standard practices and behaviors of allies.
The Muslims have almost never acted as allies. More often that not, they have diabolically and diametrically opposite of how an ally would act towards us. The Arabs sided with the wrong side in World War I. The Arabs sided with Hitler in World War II. Going so far as to travel to Berlin to learn the art of the Final Solution so as to import it to the Middle East. In order so that they might use the Final Solution on the Jews of the Levant. In the Cold War, Syria and Egypt both sought to be non-aligned until they were obviously in the Soviet Camp. By then, it was obvious that non-alignment meant taking money from the West and Tactical/Strategic aid, advisors and equipment from the Soviets.
We should have severed ties with the Arabs decades ago.
The Israelis had just as much right to an Independent Nation in the areas that comprised the Palestine Mandate as did any other people who lived there. The Jews created the major cities. The Jews created the jobs to which the Arabs flocked in mass numbers in the area. If it weren’t for the Jews who live[d] in Palestine, there would be nothing over which to fight in the area.
If the Jews were to leave Palestine, they’d take with them their technology, their labor and the area would return to the dust from whence it sprang.
Economic right. They created the economy of Palestine. Were it not for the Jews, there’d be a few date farms and a few thousand sheep and some dusty old towns wherein lived naught but poverty stricken Muslims.
The Jews are the only reason that the area is worth having. Without them, there would be absolutely nothing there.
For a great example, look to the Sinai. When the Israelis occupied it, they civilized the land. Cultivated the land. Irrigated the land. They started pulling oil out of the Sinai. You can see the remains of the old Israeli settlements. Even as remains after having been bulldozed by the Israeli Gov’t in order to keep the settlers from returning, they’re still more habitable than the Arab/Egyptian towns. Oil production is almost nil. The ARabs can do almost nothing without outside assistance.
Israel had to go to Egypt and show the Egyptian government how to irrigate and desalinize to save their cotton crops. Egypt! One of the oldest civilization on the planet is no longer able to properly irrigate their crops without the assistance of Israeli science and technology.
The Israeli people had the right to choose the government under which they would live.
The Arabs wanted to force them to live under Muslim rule. The Arabs wanted submission.
That is why I can not, will not support he Arabs in this conflict.
The Israelis should have driven all of the Palestinian Arabs into Jordan. Jordan is the true homeland of the Palestinians.
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/essays-on-france/paris-notes-fall-2o05/
http://middleeastfacts.com/images/thearabworld.gif
http://www.danielpipes.org/6257/arabs-israelis-and-underdogs
All of the Nations not in Blue are Muslim countries. Yet, they [the Muslims] must have this spec of blue territory as well. Why?
Number English Français עברית العربية
Israel / Israël 1 Israel Israël اسرائيل
Gaza strip & West Bank /
Bande de Gaza et Cisjordanie 2 Gaza strip Bande de Gaza
3 West Bank Cisjordanie
Arab Nations / Nations arabes 4 Morocco Maroc
5 Algeria Algérie
6 Tunisia Tunisie
7 Libya Libye
8 Sudan Soudan
9 Djibouti Djibouti
10 Somalia Somalie
11 Oman Oman
12 U.A.E. E.A.U.
13 Qatar Qatar
14 Kuwait Koweït
15 Mauritania Mauritanie
16 Comoros Comores
Have been in war with Israel /
Ont été en guerre avec Israël 17 Saudi Arabia Arabie Saoudite
18 Iraq Irak
19 Syria Syrie
20 Jordan Jordanie
21 Lebanon Liban
22 Egypt Egypte
23 Yemen Yemen
▶ One Response
You speak as an historian and a traveler among these nations, Dave. The current adnministratiobn in America does not represent “We the people” of America in their anti-Israeli talks and moves. They cannot stand our honesty in free speech.
I pray for the God of Christians and Jews to bless your words.
Sam
Reply
SamKat
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