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#21 Yesterday, 06:28 PM
Will Lavender
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Originally Posted by KCKUKFan
And don't forget a commitment from the number one player in 2011.
Tragic sign o' the times.
I've said it for months. Cal's no different than Gillispie, really. Only difference is that one guy tweets off a few inspirational quotes and the other likes Pop Tarts.
Nobody can ever convince me--nobody, ever, nobody can ever, ever ever--that this past season wasn't like pulling teeth.
Winning all those games? Bludgeoning those 35 opponents? Winning the SEC? The miraculous SEC Tournament win? The 2000th win? The highlights every night?
You know what I say to all that? YAWNY-YAW-YAWN!
As long as we're playing with these "one-and-done" mercenaries, I'll continue not to care. Wake me up when we sign a good ol-fashioned strapper who can hit a 15-footer and doesn't have tattoos.
This dominance was disagraceful and Cal simply must do better.
Sincerely,
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#22 Yesterday, 06:30 PM
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These 4 or 5 play on different teams and they don't make the NBA draft level they did with UK, even Cousins who was a work in progress for much of the year developed under the leadership of the coaches ( all of them not just Cal) and Patterson, as well as the talent and hype of Wall.
Face it together they made a heck of a team and learned to play off each others strengths, apart who knows if Cousins would have had the metamorphosis from High school AAU player to NBA caliber JMO probably not...
I figure Cal was looking at Wall and Patterson on the out, and maybe, cousins if he grew,
Bledsoe is very very good and is Orton but they are going NBA because it looks like the right time. They might get surprised aka 04 UF team that bolted and went nowhere...
Hey "...gatorland":
What's the scuttlebut in FL over Cal plucking Knight from UF/Billy D.? I know UF quit recruiting him but I'm curious if anyone is upset that he's leaving the state, especially for UK? Or maybe no one cares since spring football began?
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#23 Yesterday, 06:30 PM
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Causing more harm than good. Maybe time away will do me a bit of good.
To the woods I go! See yall on the flip side!
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#24 Yesterday, 06:34 PM
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Causing more harm than good.
Nah. Just joshin', UFGrant. You're a valuable member here.
You do, however, love to devil's advocate the hell out of it. You know you were cheering like mad this season and would take another one in a heartbeat. You know it!
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#25 Yesterday, 06:35 PM
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Maybe Barnhart should bring back Gillispie so everyone can be happy again...
While I agree that Cal shouldn't change his methods, these arguments are meaningless. It's like people believe that you have to go from one extreme to the other, when you can find a happy medium (which I believe Calipari will).
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#26 Yesterday, 06:37 PM
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Causing more harm than good. Maybe time away will do me a bit of good.
To the woods I go! See yall on the flip side!
You're cool with me too!
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#27 Yesterday, 06:37 PM
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Maybe Barnhart should bring back Gillispie so everyone can be happy again...
not me..I would be a very unhappy fan.....maybe not a fan anymore
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#28 Yesterday, 08:37 PM
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I have no problem whatsoever with Coach Calipari and how he steers his ship. So what if he rectuits the best of the best and there one and done's. So what if his young teams go through the regular season up and down like a roller coaster as they learn a new system and way of playing basketball.
To me, it's all about the last 6 games of the season and by fluke, we played horrible at the wrong time of the year without any help from the refs
What's sad today is that were not stopping on the side of the road somewhere and purchasing our 2010 Ncaa National Championship t shirts. We could have very easily have won the title this year and Coach Cal made all the right moves and pulled the right strings all year long. Unfortunately, we came up short at the end of the year and i don't put the blame on him or his staff.If fact, i appreciate and want to thank him for getting our program back in the hunt and in the thick of things
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#29 Yesterday, 08:49 PM
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UF, thicken your skin. Don't leave - we love you here. You created the Rumor Mill, man; that in itself makes you a WCN Legend.
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#30 Yesterday, 08:54 PM
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Causing more harm than good. Maybe time away will do me a bit of good.
To the woods I go! See yall on the flip side!
Not causing any harm at all. I don't think its physically possible for you to have caused any harm as a matter of fact. You have your opinion like everyone else. I disagree with it, but its still your opinion. I do think one thing in this statement is true and thats time. Not time away from here. But just time will help with all of this change for ya. Lets give Cal a little time too.
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#31 Yesterday, 09:01 PM
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Cal recruits the highest talent available.
Most of those guys are going to be one and done type guys.
That's what Cal was brought in to do. Bring the talent level back up.
You can't have the type of talent that UK should have without having one and done players.
Are there people out there that really do not comprehend this?
yeah i'm pretty perplexed as to why the one and done thing is such a downer for some - most actually
all people have done is gripe about recruiting and gripe about the lack of consistent widespread talent and how there are players on the bench that don't deserve to wear that uniform - i know i've done it
but now we get Calipari who is a known high caliber talent recruiter that when mixed with the tradition and ALL that is Kentucky basketball is a win win for everyone - it's a problem
i can understand how people could get worried about a MASS exodus yearly....but i'm tellin ya - i just don't see that being the norm at Kentucky.....we may see a couple go after one year.....but a repeat of what we saw this season, i don't think so....
Calipari is doing what he's paid to do - bring in TOP players! he's a great ambassador for the University of Kentucky and is PERFECT for this job!
his job rating on just what we've seen since last april between a 1 and 10 scale i give him a 20!
GO CATS AND GO COACH CAL!!!!!! THE BIG BLUE STEAMROLLER IS BACK!!!!!
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#32 Yesterday, 09:23 PM
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Here's the only "One and Done" that matters
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As long as we keep Coach and he aint a 1 and dun guy then I think we're ok....He said it himslef (and some of the mock Drafts are picking up on it as well) some of these guys (Bledsoe/Orton) were not expected to go the first year.......As long as coach aint a 1 and dun - we'll be ok.
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#33 Today, 01:29 AM
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Maybe Barnhart should bring back Gillispie so everyone can be happy again...
Post of the day!!!!
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#34 Today, 03:03 AM
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It's simple. People should enjoy the talent while it is here. Don't worry about "how long" it will be here....worry more about "how PRODUCTIVE" they will be
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#35 Today, 03:05 AM
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Maybe Barnhart should bring back Gillispie so everyone can be happy again...
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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#36 Today, 03:18 AM
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i can understand how people could get worried about a MASS exodus yearly....but i'm tellin ya - i just don't see that being the norm at Kentucky.....we may see a couple go after one year.....but a repeat of what we saw this season, i don't think so....
Agreed. i think he should try and recruit only a few 1-and-done's a year (which he did this past year, just turned out that bledsoe and orton had higher stocks than they were expecting and they cant/shouldnt turn down the money given their financial situations).
Though we are getting Knight this year, I hope people realize he won't be as incredible as Wall. A player like Wall comes every 3 years or so. I almost hope Knight doesn't blow up next year so he can stay for 2 years and so we can get to know him a little more
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#37 Today, 03:21 AM
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I have tried not to comment on some of the LUNACY I have read from some of our fans "concerned" about the "one and done players" but can do so no longer.. To them I say;A. GROW UP or B. Get in a time machine and go watch BB in the 1970,s. This is 2010 and "one and done's" are the way THINGS ARE. Accept it or better still ENJOY UK Basketball back at the level where it belongs. If you can't accept things as they currently are then you should probably quit watching the college game, because I have news for you, that troll David Stern has ZERO interest in changing the current system and THIS is what we have for the foreseeable future.
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#38 Today, 03:25 AM
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I have tried not to comment on some of the LUNACY I have read from some of our fans "concerned" about the "one and done players" but can do so no longer.. To them I say;A. GROW UP or B. Get in a time machine and go watch BB in the 1970,s. This is 2010 and "one and done's" are the way THINGS ARE. Accept it or better still ENJOY UK Basketball back at the level where it belongs. If you can't accept things as they currently are then you should probably quit watching the college game, because I have news for you, that troll David Stern has ZERO interest in changing the current system and THIS is what we have for the foreseeable future.
One-and-dones are the cream of the crop yes. But it doesnt mean UK has to be the school that is known as the one-and-done capital of the world. We can be like any other top school (like Kansas, or UNC, or even Duke who has had some 1-and-done's) and try to mix one-and-dones with 2-4 year players. I think thats what Cal's plan was all along... it just didnt turn out that way this year. I dont like UK having the title of the "one-and-done" school or the NBA d-league roster etc etc and I think it is ill-founded based on one-year by the haters. I think next year things will calm down. We should be solid next year, and bring in some talent for the year after to cultivate a team over a few years.
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#39 Today, 07:25 AM
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While I agree that Cal shouldn't change his methods, these arguments are meaningless. It's like people believe that you have to go from one extreme to the other, when you can find a happy medium (which I believe Calipari will).
There you go again. I'll leave it at that.
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#40 Today, 09:59 AM
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Another great find in this article, WildcatRick! I luv u man!
Our good friend Dawood can stir the pot and he is never dull!
I'll live through and enjoy any 35-3 season. The 2010 Kentucky wildcats were not the National Champions of the NCAA, but Champions to the world's greatest basketball fans. That ain't chopped liver, friends.
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