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Saturday, May 22, 2010

Ugh! Curry Kirkpatrick of Sports Illustrated- WCN thread

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#21 Yesterday, 07:33 PM

billoliver40

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With all due respect to all posters....and I mean that sincerely.



What the most serious issue was the allegations....and believe me, they were very strong and had a lot of legs to them....that there was grade

alteration and test alteration....including involving the head coach's son and a kid that could well have been one of the best players that ever put on a UK uniform.



The talk that was going on then is the same many posters are putting out today: setup....how could that come open ...the father of Mills questioned if his son was only worth that amount of money .

In fact, there have been some that claim they have solid proof that the envelope WAS a plant from rival fans.



It doesn't matter. What the deal was is alteration of test scores to make a player eligible.

The NCAA found enough proof that it almost completely shut down the

biggest name around in college ball.

The attitude that 'everyone is just jealous and nothing is going on' blinded all of us.

The coach at that time, Eddie Sutton, was considered a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame. He built Creighton and Arkansas into basketball powers. He was the man that considered the PERFECT choice to replace to Joe Hall.

Drinker....sure...but highest integrity. Cliff Hagan...all american...champion basketball player...Home grown boy...was the AD.



It happens quick, folks. Trust me.





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#22 Today, 08:33 AM

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Well, it was so much more than that. I'd suggest reading the article, if only because it's a cautionary tale on how programs should not be run.



But the most interesting thing about it is that Eddie Sutton is rarely mentioned. Maybe it's because Kirkpatrick couldn't really figure out what Sutton's role was, but if you believe this article then the head coach was a bit player.



But there's this: Kentucky fans are mentioned a lot. If you believe this piece, then we were part of creating this machine where cheating was acceptable as long as the team won.



What interests me about that is that you can see some of that now.



I'm not saying Cal = Sutton, and I'm not alleging anything is going on in the program, but I do think there is an inherent danger when fans and boosters and the people like us start to look away and accept cheating.









I am afraid that many Kentucky fans are going to make UK basketball no fun as long as Coach Cal is here because of their mistrust. That is really sad.



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#23 Today, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billoliver40

"just win, baby"....



The passion the fans feel for UK ball is nothing new. It was a big part of what happened during the Eddie Sutton tenure. All the fans wanted was a national title. Eddie Sutton 'knew' that was his main mission.



For those of you who weren't around, there were a list of claims longer than I am tall about how UK was being targeted, cheated, set up...you name it. And looking back, some of that could have been correct....

BUT:



It was out of control to the point of grade tampering. UK was fortunate that it even HAD a basketball team after the investigation. Yes, it WAS that bad.

That's one of the reasons some of us get shivers when we hear about

allegations of 'pushing the envelope' when it comes to rules, and we really

catch our breath when the fan base laughs about it.









I don't think it is funny but it is a downer. I still think it has everything to do with Coach Cal whether some of us realize it or not. Will UK basketball ever become really fun again? I have my doubts. If we had any coach but Cal I don't think this topic would even be brought up. That is just my honest opinion.



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#24 Today, 10:44 AM

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Quote:

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If we had any coach but Cal I don't think this topic would even be brought up. That is just my honest opinion.



You're probably right. Problems at UMASS and Memphis (whether coach Cal had any involvement or not) are the reason for these conversations, in my opinion. Those incidents will probably dog him for a long time, perhaps as long as he's a college coach. Especially since he coaches at one of the highest profile schools in the nation.





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#25 Today, 11:25 AM

SamKat

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Will and Bill,



Curry Kirkpatrick, in my memory is the Sports Illustrated journalist who started the revisionist history on Adolph Rupp's racism. I give him not a dime of my thoughts. He began gossiping a message that has been perpetuated. Facts were never a problem to the guy. He wanted sensationalism to get the attention of sports fans whether truth or fiction.



I grew up listening to Bill Stern on Friday night radio. Bill would tell a story and reveal the name of a noted sports person of the day as the main person in the story at the end of the story. He became immensely popular and then somebody checked a few of his stories and found that he was 'creating' the association. Bill had such dramatic presentations that I and his audiences hung on every word. He was a hero journalist destroyed to most of us when the truth entered the picture.



Curry Kirkpatrick ... Ugh!



Sorry ... Just my honest opinion.





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